My favorite comment on The Hartwell Paper comes from a guest post at Lucia's blog:Not the end of blog warfare!? That alone will kill the ideas we suggest ;-)For people who believe that AGW is a real problem and are frustrated that there is no significant political movement, the authors may offer a new way forward. For people who have resisted AGW on the theory that it is merely a narrow political agenda dressed in overstated scientific claims, the Hartwell paper is an opportunity (challenge?) to join a more affirmative, more open-ended approach.
For all of us who have long enjoyed the vitriol, the thrill of combat and the deeply obsessive nature of climate-debate blogging, the Hartwell approach may be a threat to this cherished form of recreation if people were to start thinking outside the box in this fashion.
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The guest post author is George Tobin.
The 'ol semaphore for an N and a D --Nuclear Disarmament. Given the current state of nuclear weapons in the world, it is befitting to associate it with climate change.
For shame (pp 19):
Professor Dame Jocelyn Bell Burnell as a graduate student at Cambridge in December 1967 spotting the radio signals which led to discovery of pulsars, or James Lovelock looking for signs of life on Mars which led him to the Gaia hypothesis of a self-regulating, life-supporting atmosphere on Earth. In that way we can make credible progress.
This sort of equating of hard physical theories with eco-pseudo-science is exactly what gets stealth advocates trying to borrow credibility and cloth their naked uncertainty in trouble. Why are you engaged in the same silliness? As far as 'weak Gaia' is undeniable and untestable it is not a hypothesis (it is a name for the system). As far as 'strong Gaia' makes any claims it is rather ridiculous speculative philosophy rather than science.
Oh, don't worry. The vitriol from the left-wing ideologues will continue. They'll probably add the Hartwell group to their enemies list. After all, you speak with civility to those evildoing ignorance-spreading climate denialists, who make vicious ad hominem attacks, just like the McCarthyites, Stalin and Nazis whom they emulate!
I, too, say don't worry. If you read the comments AND the trackback for the climateaudit post on the Hartwell paper, you will see that it's under attack from extremists on both sides. Or rather, YOU (and the others) are under attack.
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